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Marta Cousido, modified 3 Months ago.

likelihood values

Youngling Posts: 8 Join Date: 3/4/24 Recent Posts

Dear SS Experts,

 

First of all, sorry for asking too many questions, but we are working on improving our SS model for hake, and in this process many doubts and questions arise.

We are currently experimenting with the lambda parameter to control the contribution of each data source to the total likelihood. During this process, we have been reviewing the table of likelihood values (see image) and have noticed some points that we don't fully understand:

For example, in the case of catches, the likelihood value in the table  correspond to the sum of the "Like" column from the catch information table (which we understand contains the -log L for each observation). This makes sense to us.

However, for other components such as surveys or discards, we observe something different. Specifically, the likelihood value for the indices in the likelihood table is -79.5787, and does not correspond to the sum of the 'Like' column in the indices table. Instead, it corresponds to the sum of the "Like" column plus log(SE). The resulting value changes significantly from 112.1084 to -79.5787 when log(SE) is added.

We do not understand why the "Like" column, which we interpret as -log(L), is modified by adding log(SE) for components such as discards or surveys. This additional term seems to change the contribution of these components to the total likelihood significantly.

We would be very grateful if you could explain the rationale for adding this term.

Thank you very much for your time and help!

 

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Elizabeth Gugliotti, modified 3 Months ago.

RE: likelihood values

Youngling Posts: 1 Join Date: 4/13/20 Recent Posts

Hi Marta,

I would actually suggest that you post this question to the ss3 google group as most people have moved to that platform and are generally quicker to answer questions there.