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Faye Morrone, modified 3 Years ago.

LLL product reaching IA State text archive

Youngling Posts: 2 Join Date: 6/22/17 Recent Posts

Hi Everyone,

Apologies if this has already been addressed at some point. We recently discovered that our LLL product (LLLOKX) is being stored in the Iowa State text archive (for example, http://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/wx/afos/p.php?pil=LLLOKX&e=202112131647). We have only started using IRIS with any regularity over the last year or so, but my understanding was that this product is supposed to remain internal for QC, etc. Is there a way to stop this product from being picked up and stored on the web? I tried adding it to our afos2awips blacklist, but that didn't change anything.

We are not the only office with our LLL product appearing online, it happens for at least one of our neighbors as well.

Thanks,

Faye

Joseph Moore, modified 3 Years ago.

RE: LLL product reaching IA State text archive

Youngling Posts: 31 Join Date: 11/1/13 Recent Posts

WHOA... That's not great. We have sent pre-public information this way, trusting that it would not leave the NOAA network, and we see the same behavior here at DLH.

-Joe

On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 11:27 AM Faye Morrone <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hi Everyone,

Apologies if this has already been addressed at some point. We recently discovered that our LLL product (LLLOKX) is being stored in the Iowa State text archive (for example, http://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/wx/afos/p.php?pil=LLLOKX&e=202112131647). We have only started using IRIS with any regularity over the last year or so, but my understanding was that this product is supposed to remain internal for QC, etc. Is there a way to stop this product from being picked up and stored on the web? I tried adding it to our afos2awips blacklist, but that didn't change anything.

We are not the only office with our LLL product appearing online, it happens for at least one of our neighbors as well.

Thanks,

Faye

--
Faye Morrone IRIS Virtual Lab Forum https://vlab.noaa.gov/web/iris/iris-forum/-/message_boards/view_message/19432730 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

Joseph J. Moore

Warning Coordination Meteorologist

NOAA/National Weather Service Duluth, MN

Office: 218-729-6483 x726 | Cell: 267-481-0341 | Operations: 218-729-0653

weather.gov/duluth

Matt Davis, modified 3 Years ago.

RE: LLL product reaching IA State text archive

Youngling Posts: 193 Join Date: 6/14/11 Recent Posts

Hi Faye and Joe,

It's always been that way. The route from IDP to AWIPS is via the SBN, and Iowa State archives everything. LLL and WRK products use the same WMO designator to

indicate these are non-official work products.

Thanks,

Matt

On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 10:40 AM Joseph Moore <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

WHOA... That's not great. We have sent pre-public information this way, trusting that it would not leave the NOAA network, and we see the same behavior here at DLH.

-Joe

On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 11:27 AM Faye Morrone <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
Hi Everyone,

Apologies if this has already been addressed at some point. We recently discovered that our LLL product (LLLOKX) is being stored in the Iowa State text archive (for example, http://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/wx/afos/p.php?pil=LLLOKX&e=202112131647). We have only started using IRIS with any regularity over the last year or so, but my understanding was that this product is supposed to remain internal for QC, etc. Is there a way to stop this product from being picked up and stored on the web? I tried adding it to our afos2awips blacklist, but that didn't change anything.

We are not the only office with our LLL product appearing online, it happens for at least one of our neighbors as well.

Thanks,

Faye

--
Faye Morrone IRIS Virtual Lab Forum https://vlab.noaa.gov/web/iris/iris-forum/-/message_boards/view_message/19432730 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--
Joseph J. Moore
Warning Coordination Meteorologist
NOAA/National Weather Service Duluth, MN
Office: 218-729-6483 x726 | Cell: 267-481-0341 | Operations: 218-729-0653
weather.gov/duluth

--
Joseph Moore IRIS Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/iris/iris-forum/-/message_boards/view_message/19435035 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

MDL Project Manager for IDSS and Dissemination Systems

Meteorological Development Lab/WIAD

Office of Science and Technology Integration

NOAA DSRC 3D131, Boulder, Colorado

(608) 406-0537

Craig Schmidt, modified 3 Years ago.

RE: LLL product reaching IA State text archive

Youngling Posts: 4 Join Date: 11/8/12 Recent Posts

Hi all,

I got in contact with my contact at ISU about the LLL. He already removes WRK products from the public list, and will now exclude LLL from the public facing page as well. They are still archived, but it would require some work to find them.

Hope this helps,

Craig

On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 11:57 AM Matt Davis <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hi Faye and Joe,

It's always been that way. The route from IDP to AWIPS is via the SBN, and Iowa State archives everything. LLL and WRK products use the same WMO designator to
indicate these are non-official work products.

Thanks,
Matt

On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 10:40 AM Joseph Moore <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
WHOA... That's not great. We have sent pre-public information this way, trusting that it would not leave the NOAA network, and we see the same behavior here at DLH.

-Joe

On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 11:27 AM Faye Morrone <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
Hi Everyone,

Apologies if this has already been addressed at some point. We recently discovered that our LLL product (LLLOKX) is being stored in the Iowa State text archive (for example, http://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/wx/afos/p.php?pil=LLLOKX&e=202112131647). We have only started using IRIS with any regularity over the last year or so, but my understanding was that this product is supposed to remain internal for QC, etc. Is there a way to stop this product from being picked up and stored on the web? I tried adding it to our afos2awips blacklist, but that didn't change anything.

We are not the only office with our LLL product appearing online, it happens for at least one of our neighbors as well.

Thanks,

Faye

--
Faye Morrone IRIS Virtual Lab Forum https://vlab.noaa.gov/web/iris/iris-forum/-/message_boards/view_message/19432730 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--
Joseph J. Moore
Warning Coordination Meteorologist
NOAA/National Weather Service Duluth, MN
Office: 218-729-6483 x726 | Cell: 267-481-0341 | Operations: 218-729-0653
weather.gov/duluth

--
Joseph Moore IRIS Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/iris/iris-forum/-/message_boards/view_message/19435035 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--
MDL Project Manager for IDSS and Dissemination Systems
Meteorological Development Lab/WIAD
Office of Science and Technology Integration
NOAA DSRC 3D131, Boulder, Colorado
(608) 406-0537
(608) 406-0537

--
Matt Davis IRIS Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/iris/iris-forum/-/message_boards/view_message/19435239 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

"NWS Twin Cities: your 24/7 partner for critical weather information,

so you can make the best possible decisions"

Craig C. Schmidt [Currently Teleworking]
Service Hydrologist

National Weather Service

Chanhassen/Twin Cities, MN

952 368 2542 (office)

952 361 6671 (operations)

801 560 9648 (cell)

Tanja Fransen, modified 3 Years ago.

RE: LLL product reaching IA State text archive

Youngling Posts: 1 Join Date: 11/20/13 Recent Posts

You can take the dissemination guy out of WRH, but you can't take dissemination out of his blood. :) Thanks Craig Schmidt!! I sometimes miss those good old days!

Tanja

On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 2:39 PM Craig Schmidt <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hi all,

I got in contact with my contact at ISU about the LLL. He already removes WRK products from the public list, and will now exclude LLL from the public facing page as well. They are still archived, but it would require some work to find them.

Hope this helps,
Craig

On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 11:57 AM Matt Davis <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
Hi Faye and Joe,

It's always been that way. The route from IDP to AWIPS is via the SBN, and Iowa State archives everything. LLL and WRK products use the same WMO designator to
indicate these are non-official work products.

Thanks,
Matt

On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 10:40 AM Joseph Moore <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
WHOA... That's not great. We have sent pre-public information this way, trusting that it would not leave the NOAA network, and we see the same behavior here at DLH.

-Joe

On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 11:27 AM Faye Morrone <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
Hi Everyone,

Apologies if this has already been addressed at some point. We recently discovered that our LLL product (LLLOKX) is being stored in the Iowa State text archive (for example, http://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/wx/afos/p.php?pil=LLLOKX&e=202112131647). We have only started using IRIS with any regularity over the last year or so, but my understanding was that this product is supposed to remain internal for QC, etc. Is there a way to stop this product from being picked up and stored on the web? I tried adding it to our afos2awips blacklist, but that didn't change anything.

We are not the only office with our LLL product appearing online, it happens for at least one of our neighbors as well.

Thanks,

Faye

--
Faye Morrone IRIS Virtual Lab Forum https://vlab.noaa.gov/web/iris/iris-forum/-/message_boards/view_message/19432730 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--
Joseph J. Moore
Warning Coordination Meteorologist
NOAA/National Weather Service Duluth, MN
Office: 218-729-6483 x726 | Cell: 267-481-0341 | Operations: 218-729-0653
weather.gov/duluth

--
Joseph Moore IRIS Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/iris/iris-forum/-/message_boards/view_message/19435035 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--
MDL Project Manager for IDSS and Dissemination Systems
Meteorological Development Lab/WIAD
Office of Science and Technology Integration
NOAA DSRC 3D131, Boulder, Colorado
(608) 406-0537
(608) 406-0537

--
Matt Davis IRIS Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/iris/iris-forum/-/message_boards/view_message/19435239 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--
"NWS Twin Cities: your 24/7 partner for critical weather information,
so you can make the best possible decisions"

Craig C. Schmidt [Currently Teleworking]
Service Hydrologist
National Weather Service
Chanhassen/Twin Cities, MN

952 368 2542 (office)
952 361 6671 (operations)
801 560 9648 (cell)

--
Craig Schmidt IRIS Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/iris/iris-forum/-/message_boards/view_message/19439905 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

Tanja Fransen

Meteorologist-in-Charge

NOAA/NWS Glasgow, MT

406-228-2850 (admin)

406-228-8866 x222 (direct line)

pronouns: She/Her/Hers

Matt Davis, modified 3 Years ago.

RE: LLL product reaching IA State text archive

Youngling Posts: 193 Join Date: 6/14/11 Recent Posts

Thank you Craig! Much appreciated.

On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 3:01 PM Tanja Fransen <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

You can take the dissemination guy out of WRH, but you can't take dissemination out of his blood. :) Thanks Craig Schmidt!! I sometimes miss those good old days!

Tanja

On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 2:39 PM Craig Schmidt <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
Hi all,

I got in contact with my contact at ISU about the LLL. He already removes WRK products from the public list, and will now exclude LLL from the public facing page as well. They are still archived, but it would require some work to find them.

Hope this helps,
Craig

On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 11:57 AM Matt Davis <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
Hi Faye and Joe,

It's always been that way. The route from IDP to AWIPS is via the SBN, and Iowa State archives everything. LLL and WRK products use the same WMO designator to
indicate these are non-official work products.

Thanks,
Matt

On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 10:40 AM Joseph Moore <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
WHOA... That's not great. We have sent pre-public information this way, trusting that it would not leave the NOAA network, and we see the same behavior here at DLH.

-Joe

On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 11:27 AM Faye Morrone <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
Hi Everyone,

Apologies if this has already been addressed at some point. We recently discovered that our LLL product (LLLOKX) is being stored in the Iowa State text archive (for example, http://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/wx/afos/p.php?pil=LLLOKX&e=202112131647). We have only started using IRIS with any regularity over the last year or so, but my understanding was that this product is supposed to remain internal for QC, etc. Is there a way to stop this product from being picked up and stored on the web? I tried adding it to our afos2awips blacklist, but that didn't change anything.

We are not the only office with our LLL product appearing online, it happens for at least one of our neighbors as well.

Thanks,

Faye

--
Faye Morrone IRIS Virtual Lab Forum https://vlab.noaa.gov/web/iris/iris-forum/-/message_boards/view_message/19432730 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--
Joseph J. Moore
Warning Coordination Meteorologist
NOAA/National Weather Service Duluth, MN
Office: 218-729-6483 x726 | Cell: 267-481-0341 | Operations: 218-729-0653
weather.gov/duluth

--
Joseph Moore IRIS Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/iris/iris-forum/-/message_boards/view_message/19435035 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--
MDL Project Manager for IDSS and Dissemination Systems
Meteorological Development Lab/WIAD
Office of Science and Technology Integration
NOAA DSRC 3D131, Boulder, Colorado
(608) 406-0537
(608) 406-0537

--
Matt Davis IRIS Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/iris/iris-forum/-/message_boards/view_message/19435239 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--
"NWS Twin Cities: your 24/7 partner for critical weather information,
so you can make the best possible decisions"

Craig C. Schmidt [Currently Teleworking]
Service Hydrologist
National Weather Service
Chanhassen/Twin Cities, MN

952 368 2542 (office)
952 361 6671 (operations)
801 560 9648 (cell)

--
Craig Schmidt IRIS Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/iris/iris-forum/-/message_boards/view_message/19439905 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--
Tanja Fransen
Meteorologist-in-Charge
NOAA/NWS Glasgow, MT
406-228-2850 (admin)
406-228-8866 x222 (direct line)

pronouns: She/Her/Hers

--
Tanja Fransen IRIS Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/iris/iris-forum/-/message_boards/view_message/19440259 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

MDL Project Manager for IDSS and Dissemination Systems

Meteorological Development Lab/WIAD

Office of Science and Technology Integration

NOAA DSRC 3D131, Boulder, Colorado

(608) 406-0537

Faye Morrone, modified 3 Years ago.

RE: LLL product reaching IA State text archive

Youngling Posts: 2 Join Date: 6/22/17 Recent Posts

Yes, this sounds like a great solution, thank you!

Faye

Craig Schmidt, modified 3 Years ago.

RE: LLL product reaching IA State text archive

Youngling Posts: 4 Join Date: 11/8/12 Recent Posts

Ha, thanks Tanja....me too! Just glad to help out where I can, of course :-)

On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 4:01 PM Tanja Fransen <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

You can take the dissemination guy out of WRH, but you can't take dissemination out of his blood. :) Thanks Craig Schmidt!! I sometimes miss those good old days!

Tanja

On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 2:39 PM Craig Schmidt <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
Hi all,

I got in contact with my contact at ISU about the LLL. He already removes WRK products from the public list, and will now exclude LLL from the public facing page as well. They are still archived, but it would require some work to find them.

Hope this helps,
Craig

On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 11:57 AM Matt Davis <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
Hi Faye and Joe,

It's always been that way. The route from IDP to AWIPS is via the SBN, and Iowa State archives everything. LLL and WRK products use the same WMO designator to
indicate these are non-official work products.

Thanks,
Matt

On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 10:40 AM Joseph Moore <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
WHOA... That's not great. We have sent pre-public information this way, trusting that it would not leave the NOAA network, and we see the same behavior here at DLH.

-Joe

On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 11:27 AM Faye Morrone <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
Hi Everyone,

Apologies if this has already been addressed at some point. We recently discovered that our LLL product (LLLOKX) is being stored in the Iowa State text archive (for example, http://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/wx/afos/p.php?pil=LLLOKX&e=202112131647). We have only started using IRIS with any regularity over the last year or so, but my understanding was that this product is supposed to remain internal for QC, etc. Is there a way to stop this product from being picked up and stored on the web? I tried adding it to our afos2awips blacklist, but that didn't change anything.

We are not the only office with our LLL product appearing online, it happens for at least one of our neighbors as well.

Thanks,

Faye

--
Faye Morrone IRIS Virtual Lab Forum https://vlab.noaa.gov/web/iris/iris-forum/-/message_boards/view_message/19432730 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--
Joseph J. Moore
Warning Coordination Meteorologist
NOAA/National Weather Service Duluth, MN
Office: 218-729-6483 x726 | Cell: 267-481-0341 | Operations: 218-729-0653
weather.gov/duluth

--
Joseph Moore IRIS Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/iris/iris-forum/-/message_boards/view_message/19435035 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--
MDL Project Manager for IDSS and Dissemination Systems
Meteorological Development Lab/WIAD
Office of Science and Technology Integration
NOAA DSRC 3D131, Boulder, Colorado
(608) 406-0537
(608) 406-0537

--
Matt Davis IRIS Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/iris/iris-forum/-/message_boards/view_message/19435239 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--
"NWS Twin Cities: your 24/7 partner for critical weather information,
so you can make the best possible decisions"

Craig C. Schmidt [Currently Teleworking]
Service Hydrologist
National Weather Service
Chanhassen/Twin Cities, MN

952 368 2542 (office)
952 361 6671 (operations)
801 560 9648 (cell)

--
Craig Schmidt IRIS Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/iris/iris-forum/-/message_boards/view_message/19439905 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--
Tanja Fransen
Meteorologist-in-Charge
NOAA/NWS Glasgow, MT
406-228-2850 (admin)
406-228-8866 x222 (direct line)

pronouns: She/Her/Hers

--
Tanja Fransen IRIS Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/iris/iris-forum/-/message_boards/view_message/19440259 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

"NWS Twin Cities: your 24/7 partner for critical weather information,

so you can make the best possible decisions"

Craig C. Schmidt [Currently Teleworking]
Service Hydrologist

National Weather Service

Chanhassen/Twin Cities, MN

952 368 2542 (office)

952 361 6671 (operations)

801 560 9648 (cell)