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Kenneth Drozd, modified 5 Years ago.

Obs Monitor Station Names

Youngling Posts: 3 Join Date: 11/12/13 Recent Posts

CWOP sites do not show up in the Obs Monitor with unique station names in the "stationname" column.  For example, we have dozens of CWOP sites that are displayed as "Tucson".  This is not desirable when these stations are included in a PNS.  Two questions:  I realize the station names can be edited locally, but will they be overwritten by future MADIS ingests or IRIS upgrades?  Alternatively, rather than editing each station name individually, is there a file that can be imported into IRIS that contains the metadata to display them correctly?

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Matt Davis, modified 5 Years ago.

RE: Obs Monitor Station Names

Youngling Posts: 196 Join Date: 6/14/11 Recent Posts
To answer your first question, no, the edited names are persistent. To answer the second one, the names for the CWOP stations were taken from the MADIS
APRSWXNETStation.txt file, which has 63 stations labelled Tucson. The raw data actually looks like this:

EW3251|E3251|EW3251 Tucson                     AZ US|1397|31.52687| -110.26713|GMT|||1||||
EW3252|E3252|EW3252 Tucson                     AZ US|800| 32.23667| -110.78467|GMT|||1||||
EW5353|E5353|EW5353 Tucson                     AZ US|613| 32.05|    -110.83333|GMT|||1||||
EW5423|E5423|EW5423 Tucson                     AZ US|874| 32.30233| -110.73933|GMT|||1||||

We strip the first part of the name (which is the station identifier), and the last part of state/country. There are many other places like that with multiple sites per city name, while others
are the name of schools, parks, etc.

I could do two things here, provided the IRIS community agreed. The first option would be to change all the names to a city/azimuth/range name, like "2 NW Tucson". The other would be to change how the names are processed to result in something like "EW5423 Tucson" from above, but that would be pretty redundant with the station identifiers. 

If you have thoughts on this, please share.

Thanks,
Matt

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 12:27 PM Kenneth Drozd <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

CWOP sites do not show up in the Obs Monitor with unique station names in the "stationname" column.  For example, we have dozens of CWOP sites that are displayed as "Tucson".  This is not desirable when these stations are included in a PNS.  Two questions:  I realize the station names can be edited locally, but will they be overwritten by future MADIS ingests or IRIS upgrades?  Alternatively, rather than editing each station name individually, is there a file that can be imported into IRIS that contains the metadata to display them correctly?


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Project lead for National Weather Service CAP handler

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Art Wildman, modified 5 Years ago.

RE: Obs Monitor Station Names

Youngling Posts: 1 Join Date: 6/12/13 Recent Posts
I think this can be fixed at the source for the primary data provider APRS + CWOP mesonets via MADIS. Then other IRIS, Awips localapps ( ObsMonitor) & D2D would decode them with correct names. The MADIS config files for the mesonets are like APRSWXNETStation.txt, APRSWXNETdesc files & the README (attached) describes the process. We pull in updates from MADIS Services for Awips Users every Wednesday and use UpdateMadisFiles on the SCP to manage the feeds on LDAD & Awips px2. The configs Stations.txt and .desc for all mesonets are located on the px2:/data/fxa/LDAD/data & may need to be pre-processed by LDADinfo.txt, If the local NWS office for Tuscon would help quality control the obs & update the config files above for MADIS, then submit the changes to  madis-support@noaa.gov, that should work & fix them for everyone. MADIS has a limited support staff, so they depend on us to help QC the data from time to time.

Mesonet Providers often need our help getting data to MADIS + updating their configs. I've had to help many setup these config files over the years. Here is a doc I wrote awhile back, that explains the process for those unfamiliar with navigating the MADIS site & services.

MADIS_Mesonet_Provider_Howto.docx - Google Docs

Please post a summary to the Awips2Dev list, if/when y'all get this resolved with MADIS support. Perhaps the Awips community can help QC more obs issues like this. 

-Hope this helps, Art@JAX

Art Wildman/ITO - NWS-JAX http://weather.gov/jax/ - 904-741-5186 x-235


On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 3:47 PM Matt Davis <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
To answer your first question, no, the edited names are persistent. To answer the second one, the names for the CWOP stations were taken from the MADIS
APRSWXNETStation.txt file, which has 63 stations labelled Tucson. The raw data actually looks like this:

EW3251|E3251|EW3251 Tucson                     AZ US|1397|31.52687| -110.26713|GMT|||1||||
EW3252|E3252|EW3252 Tucson                     AZ US|800| 32.23667| -110.78467|GMT|||1||||
EW5353|E5353|EW5353 Tucson                     AZ US|613| 32.05|    -110.83333|GMT|||1||||
EW5423|E5423|EW5423 Tucson                     AZ US|874| 32.30233| -110.73933|GMT|||1||||

We strip the first part of the name (which is the station identifier), and the last part of state/country. There are many other places like that with multiple sites per city name, while others
are the name of schools, parks, etc.

I could do two things here, provided the IRIS community agreed. The first option would be to change all the names to a city/azimuth/range name, like "2 NW Tucson". The other would be to change how the names are processed to result in something like "EW5423 Tucson" from above, but that would be pretty redundant with the station identifiers. 

If you have thoughts on this, please share.

Thanks,
Matt

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 12:27 PM Kenneth Drozd <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

CWOP sites do not show up in the Obs Monitor with unique station names in the "stationname" column.  For example, we have dozens of CWOP sites that are displayed as "Tucson".  This is not desirable when these stations are included in a PNS.  Two questions:  I realize the station names can be edited locally, but will they be overwritten by future MADIS ingests or IRIS upgrades?  Alternatively, rather than editing each station name individually, is there a file that can be imported into IRIS that contains the metadata to display them correctly?


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Kenneth Drozd IRIS Virtual Lab Forum https://vlab.noaa.gov/web/iris/iris-forum/-/message_boards/view_message/7195566VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov


--
Technical Lead for the IRIS and iNWS programs,
Project lead for  National Weather Service CAP handler

Decision Support Branch
Meteorological Development Lab
Office of Science and Technology Integration
NOAA DSRC 3D131, Boulder, Colorado
(608) 406-0537



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Kenneth Drozd, modified 5 Years ago.

RE: Obs Monitor Station Names

Youngling Posts: 3 Join Date: 11/12/13 Recent Posts

Thanks for the quick reply, Matt. I would prefer the first option (e.g. 2 NW Tucson), since that is more meaningful to the public, and

is the same convention used for other data sets.