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Edward Townsend, modified 1 Year ago.

Snotels no longer available in IRIS?

Youngling Posts: 13 Join Date: 8/18/13 Recent Posts

Hello,

We are not seeing snotels any more in IRIS. Is this dataset no longer avail in IRIS?

MS
Mike Sutton, modified 1 Year ago.

RE: Snotels no longer available in IRIS?

Youngling Posts: 61 Join Date: 6/21/13 Recent Posts
Ed,

Can you give me an example of a snotel ob that you were getting.  Also, what WFO are you at?

ms

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 10:49 AM Edward Townsend <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hello,

We are not seeing snotels any more in IRIS. Is this dataset no longer avail in IRIS?


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Edward Townsend, modified 1 Year ago.

RE: Snotels no longer available in IRIS?

Youngling Posts: 13 Join Date: 8/18/13 Recent Posts
Hi Mike,

We are in WR/PDT. Looking again, I guess we are getting SNOTELs, however, we are not seeing any when we view/set our data selection to snowfall from snow depth. It is only pulling in COCORAHS and COOP obs.








On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 8:05 AM Mike Sutton <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
Ed,

Can you give me an example of a snotel ob that you were getting.  Also, what WFO are you at?

ms

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 10:49 AM Edward Townsend <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hello,

We are not seeing snotels any more in IRIS. Is this dataset no longer avail in IRIS?


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Grand Rapids, MI  49512-4034
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Office:  (616) 949-0643 x486
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Mike Sutton, modified 1 Year ago.

RE: Snotels no longer available in IRIS?

Youngling Posts: 61 Join Date: 6/21/13 Recent Posts
Ed,

It looks like everything is working properly with regard to the snow and snowfall displays.  The issue that is still unresolved in my mind, however, is whether all of the data for the SNOTEL sites is being decoded properly by the IRIS decoders.  If snowfall and snow depth data is being sent out by those sites but not ingested into IRIS, we will need to open a ticket on that.

HTH,
ms

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 11:36 AM Edward Townsend <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
Hi Mike,

We are in WR/PDT. Looking again, I guess we are getting SNOTELs, however, we are not seeing any when we view/set our data selection to snowfall from snow depth. It is only pulling in COCORAHS and COOP obs.








On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 8:05 AM Mike Sutton <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
Ed,

Can you give me an example of a snotel ob that you were getting.  Also, what WFO are you at?

ms

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 10:49 AM Edward Townsend <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hello,

We are not seeing snotels any more in IRIS. Is this dataset no longer avail in IRIS?


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Weather Forecast Office
4899 Tim Dougherty Drive SE
Grand Rapids, MI  49512-4034
Google Voice:  (616) 379-9216
Office:  (616) 949-0643 x486
AWIPS2 - Build 21.4.1-52

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NOAA/NWS Pendleton, Oregon
541-275-1815

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Information Technology Officer
Weather Forecast Office
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Grand Rapids, MI  49512-4034
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Office:  (616) 949-0643 x486
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Edward Townsend, modified 1 Year ago.

RE: Snotels no longer available in IRIS?

Youngling Posts: 13 Join Date: 8/18/13 Recent Posts

Yeah, all those sites are reporting snow depth (e.g., BMPW1 https://www.nwrfc.noaa.gov/snow/snowplot.cgi?BMPW1 or https://wcc.sc.egov.usda.gov/reportGenerator/view/customSingleStationReport/hourly/375:WA:SNTL%7Cid%3D%22%22%7Cname/-167%2C0/WTEQ%3A%3Avalue%2CSNWD%3A%3Avalue%2CPREC%3A%3Avalue%2CTOBS%3A%3Avalue?fitToScreen=false).

Could we open a ticket? Not sure how to.

 

MS
Mike Sutton, modified 1 Year ago.

RE: Snotels no longer available in IRIS?

Youngling Posts: 61 Join Date: 6/21/13 Recent Posts
Ed,

If you right click on BMPW1 in IRIS and select the Show All Obs option (then scroll to the right), you will see that the snow depth data is in there, but not for every hour.  It looks like the data is coming in from two different sources:  UTMESNET and MESOWEST.  The UTMESNET data contains all of the reportable elements except for snow depth, while the MESOWEST data contains only snow depth.  

Even so, I could not get the MESOWEST sites to display in the Obs Monitor.  Let me do some more investigating.  If I need to open a ticket or tickets on these issues, I will do that and add you as a watcher.

Thanks for letting me know about this issue.

ms

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 1:20 PM Edward Townsend <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Yeah, all those sites are reporting snow depth (e.g., BMPW1 https://www.nwrfc.noaa.gov/snow/snowplot.cgi?BMPW1 or https://wcc.sc.egov.usda.gov/reportGenerator/view/customSingleStationReport/hourly/375:WA:SNTL%7Cid%3D%22%22%7Cname/-167%2C0/WTEQ%3A%3Avalue%2CSNWD%3A%3Avalue%2CPREC%3A%3Avalue%2CTOBS%3A%3Avalue?fitToScreen=false).

Could we open a ticket? Not sure how to.

 


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Edward Townsend, modified 1 Year ago.

RE: Snotels no longer available in IRIS?

Youngling Posts: 13 Join Date: 8/18/13 Recent Posts
Thanks for putting the extra eyes on this and looking even closer! I see what you mean between utmesnet.dat and MesoWest-snow.dat for the product. 

Ed

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 10:45 AM Mike Sutton <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
Ed,

If you right click on BMPW1 in IRIS and select the Show All Obs option (then scroll to the right), you will see that the snow depth data is in there, but not for every hour.  It looks like the data is coming in from two different sources:  UTMESNET and MESOWEST.  The UTMESNET data contains all of the reportable elements except for snow depth, while the MESOWEST data contains only snow depth.  

Even so, I could not get the MESOWEST sites to display in the Obs Monitor.  Let me do some more investigating.  If I need to open a ticket or tickets on these issues, I will do that and add you as a watcher.

Thanks for letting me know about this issue.

ms

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 1:20 PM Edward Townsend <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Yeah, all those sites are reporting snow depth (e.g., BMPW1 https://www.nwrfc.noaa.gov/snow/snowplot.cgi?BMPW1 or https://wcc.sc.egov.usda.gov/reportGenerator/view/customSingleStationReport/hourly/375:WA:SNTL%7Cid%3D%22%22%7Cname/-167%2C0/WTEQ%3A%3Avalue%2CSNWD%3A%3Avalue%2CPREC%3A%3Avalue%2CTOBS%3A%3Avalue?fitToScreen=false).

Could we open a ticket? Not sure how to.

 


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James Brusda, modified 1 Year ago.

RE: Snotels no longer available in IRIS?

Youngling Posts: 8 Join Date: 7/16/15 Recent Posts

Hi, this is Jim from Great Falls. We are having the same issue here as well. You can't get the snotel data in IRIS to send a LSR. I can see the data when I click show all obs and it is the Mesowest snowdepth column that is visible but not calculating for a LSR.

 

Just let us know if you need anything else.

 

Thanks,
Jim

MS
Mike Sutton, modified 1 Year ago.

RE: Snotels no longer available in IRIS?

Youngling Posts: 61 Join Date: 6/21/13 Recent Posts
Jim,

Can you give me an example of a Snotel site in your CWA that exhibits this behavior?

Thanks,
Mike Sutton
IRIS Support/ITO GRR

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 12:58 AM James Brusda <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hi, this is Jim from Great Falls. We are having the same issue here as well. You can't get the snotel data in IRIS to send a LSR. I can see the data when I click show all obs and it is the Mesowest snowdepth column that is visible but not calculating for a LSR.

 

Just let us know if you need anything else.

 

Thanks,
Jim


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Edward Townsend, modified 1 Year ago.

RE: Snotels no longer available in IRIS?

Youngling Posts: 13 Join Date: 8/18/13 Recent Posts
Hi Mike,

Checking in, as it still appears that the snow depth isn't being decoded properly from the MesoWest-snow.dat product, and as a consequence, snowfall calculated from snow depth isn't functioning correctly (snotel sites continue to not show up). Was a ticket open for this?

Thanks,

Ed









On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 8:12 AM Mike Sutton <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
Jim,

Can you give me an example of a Snotel site in your CWA that exhibits this behavior?

Thanks,
Mike Sutton
IRIS Support/ITO GRR

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 12:58 AM James Brusda <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hi, this is Jim from Great Falls. We are having the same issue here as well. You can't get the snotel data in IRIS to send a LSR. I can see the data when I click show all obs and it is the Mesowest snowdepth column that is visible but not calculating for a LSR.

 

Just let us know if you need anything else.

 

Thanks,
Jim


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Mike Sutton - KB5ZRC
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Weather Forecast Office
4899 Tim Dougherty Drive SE
Grand Rapids, MI  49512-4034
Google Voice:  (616) 379-9216
Office:  (616) 949-0643 x486
AWIPS2 - Build 23.2.1-38

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Mike Sutton, modified 1 Year ago.

RE: Snotels no longer available in IRIS?

Youngling Posts: 61 Join Date: 6/21/13 Recent Posts

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 10:48 AM Edward Townsend <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
Hi Mike,

Checking in, as it still appears that the snow depth isn't being decoded properly from the MesoWest-snow.dat product, and as a consequence, snowfall calculated from snow depth isn't functioning correctly (snotel sites continue to not show up). Was a ticket open for this?

Thanks,

Ed









On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 8:12 AM Mike Sutton <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
Jim,

Can you give me an example of a Snotel site in your CWA that exhibits this behavior?

Thanks,
Mike Sutton
IRIS Support/ITO GRR

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 12:58 AM James Brusda <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hi, this is Jim from Great Falls. We are having the same issue here as well. You can't get the snotel data in IRIS to send a LSR. I can see the data when I click show all obs and it is the Mesowest snowdepth column that is visible but not calculating for a LSR.

 

Just let us know if you need anything else.

 

Thanks,
Jim


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Weather Forecast Office
4899 Tim Dougherty Drive SE
Grand Rapids, MI  49512-4034
Google Voice:  (616) 379-9216
Office:  (616) 949-0643 x486
AWIPS2 - Build 23.2.1-38

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NOAA/NWS Pendleton, Oregon
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Mike Sutton - KB5ZRC
Information Technology Officer
Weather Forecast Office
4899 Tim Dougherty Drive SE
Grand Rapids, MI  49512-4034
Google Voice:  (616) 379-9216
Office:  (616) 949-0643 x486
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Edward Townsend, modified 11 Months ago.

RE: Snotels no longer available in IRIS?

Youngling Posts: 13 Join Date: 8/18/13 Recent Posts
Hello,

Are there any updates for this ticket? With the first AR event impacting the West Coast, it still doesn't look like we are getting snowfall from snow depth from SNOTELs as of date.



On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 4:16 AM Mike Sutton <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 10:48 AM Edward Townsend <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
Hi Mike,

Checking in, as it still appears that the snow depth isn't being decoded properly from the MesoWest-snow.dat product, and as a consequence, snowfall calculated from snow depth isn't functioning correctly (snotel sites continue to not show up). Was a ticket open for this?

Thanks,

Ed









On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 8:12 AM Mike Sutton <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
Jim,

Can you give me an example of a Snotel site in your CWA that exhibits this behavior?

Thanks,
Mike Sutton
IRIS Support/ITO GRR

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 12:58 AM James Brusda <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hi, this is Jim from Great Falls. We are having the same issue here as well. You can't get the snotel data in IRIS to send a LSR. I can see the data when I click show all obs and it is the Mesowest snowdepth column that is visible but not calculating for a LSR.

 

Just let us know if you need anything else.

 

Thanks,
Jim


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Mike Sutton - KB5ZRC
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4899 Tim Dougherty Drive SE
Grand Rapids, MI  49512-4034
Google Voice:  (616) 379-9216
Office:  (616) 949-0643 x486
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Ed Townsend
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NOAA/NWS Pendleton, Oregon
541-275-1815

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Mike Sutton - KB5ZRC
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Weather Forecast Office
4899 Tim Dougherty Drive SE
Grand Rapids, MI  49512-4034
Google Voice:  (616) 379-9216
Office:  (616) 949-0643 x486
AWIPS2 - Build 23.2.1-38

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Matt Davis, modified 11 Months ago.

RE: Snotels no longer available in IRIS?

Youngling Posts: 196 Join Date: 6/14/11 Recent Posts
Hi Ed,

Looking through the SNOTELs out there right now, I see two issues. First, a number of those you sent have no snow depth change, so there would not be a snowfall from snow depth. Secondly, it appears that the normal MesoWest feed does not have snow depth, but the MesoWest-snow.dat feed does. This is a problem because they report at different times, and IRIS treat these as different obs for the same site. You can see in the attached image what I mean for one of your sites. If you edit the site, and tell it to only ingest from MesoWest-snow.dat, that would fix that issue, but the snow depth values also jump around (such as the 157.0 at the bottom of the image), which also breaks the algorithm.

Thanks,
Matt



On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 1:34 PM Edward Townsend <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
Hello,

Are there any updates for this ticket? With the first AR event impacting the West Coast, it still doesn't look like we are getting snowfall from snow depth from SNOTELs as of date.



On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 4:16 AM Mike Sutton <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 10:48 AM Edward Townsend <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
Hi Mike,

Checking in, as it still appears that the snow depth isn't being decoded properly from the MesoWest-snow.dat product, and as a consequence, snowfall calculated from snow depth isn't functioning correctly (snotel sites continue to not show up). Was a ticket open for this?

Thanks,

Ed









On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 8:12 AM Mike Sutton <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
Jim,

Can you give me an example of a Snotel site in your CWA that exhibits this behavior?

Thanks,
Mike Sutton
IRIS Support/ITO GRR

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 12:58 AM James Brusda <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hi, this is Jim from Great Falls. We are having the same issue here as well. You can't get the snotel data in IRIS to send a LSR. I can see the data when I click show all obs and it is the Mesowest snowdepth column that is visible but not calculating for a LSR.

 

Just let us know if you need anything else.

 

Thanks,
Jim


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4899 Tim Dougherty Drive SE
Grand Rapids, MI  49512-4034
Google Voice:  (616) 379-9216
Office:  (616) 949-0643 x486
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NOAA/NWS Pendleton, Oregon
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4899 Tim Dougherty Drive SE
Grand Rapids, MI  49512-4034
Google Voice:  (616) 379-9216
Office:  (616) 949-0643 x486
AWIPS2 - Build 23.2.1-38

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James Brusda, modified 11 Months ago.

RE: Snotels no longer available in IRIS?

Youngling Posts: 8 Join Date: 7/16/15 Recent Posts
Hi this is Jim, from the NWS in Great Falls,

I have noticed something similar, in that the SNOTEL data shows up for liquid, but not for snow data.



When I try to run snow from snow depth, it only puts snotel sites that were sent in a PNS earlier in the week, nothing new.

Jim


On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 1:24 PM Matt Davis <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
Hi Ed,

Looking through the SNOTELs out there right now, I see two issues. First, a number of those you sent have no snow depth change, so there would not be a snowfall from snow depth. Secondly, it appears that the normal MesoWest feed does not have snow depth, but the MesoWest-snow.dat feed does. This is a problem because they report at different times, and IRIS treat these as different obs for the same site. You can see in the attached image what I mean for one of your sites. If you edit the site, and tell it to only ingest from MesoWest-snow.dat, that would fix that issue, but the snow depth values also jump around (such as the 157.0 at the bottom of the image), which also breaks the algorithm.

Thanks,
Matt



On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 1:34 PM Edward Townsend <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
Hello,

Are there any updates for this ticket? With the first AR event impacting the West Coast, it still doesn't look like we are getting snowfall from snow depth from SNOTELs as of date.



On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 4:16 AM Mike Sutton <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 10:48 AM Edward Townsend <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
Hi Mike,

Checking in, as it still appears that the snow depth isn't being decoded properly from the MesoWest-snow.dat product, and as a consequence, snowfall calculated from snow depth isn't functioning correctly (snotel sites continue to not show up). Was a ticket open for this?

Thanks,

Ed









On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 8:12 AM Mike Sutton <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
Jim,

Can you give me an example of a Snotel site in your CWA that exhibits this behavior?

Thanks,
Mike Sutton
IRIS Support/ITO GRR

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 12:58 AM James Brusda <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hi, this is Jim from Great Falls. We are having the same issue here as well. You can't get the snotel data in IRIS to send a LSR. I can see the data when I click show all obs and it is the Mesowest snowdepth column that is visible but not calculating for a LSR.

 

Just let us know if you need anything else.

 

Thanks,
Jim


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Grand Rapids, MI  49512-4034
Google Voice:  (616) 379-9216
Office:  (616) 949-0643 x486
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Edward Townsend, modified 11 Months ago.

RE: Snotels no longer available in IRIS?

Youngling Posts: 13 Join Date: 8/18/13 Recent Posts

Thanks, Matt. So we have to edit all our SNOTEL sites and tell it to only ingest from MesoWest-snow.dat and that will fix the issue? I presume then we will only have snow depth and lose pcpn and temp by limiting it to MesoWest-snow.dat for the "product"? This appears to be a tad different than what Mike Sutton alluded to as the problem (and that it was an issue on how IRIS compiles the data). 

 

 

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RE: Snotels no longer available in IRIS?

Youngling Posts: 196 Join Date: 6/14/11 Recent Posts
Hi Ed,

I would edit a few to only ingest from MesoWest-snow.dat, and verify that corrects it before editing them all. It should, unless the MesoWest-snow.dat feed is inconsistent. Yes, you'll lose the other elements like temperature that are in the main Mesowest data set.

Thanks,
Matt

On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 11:11 AM Edward Townsend <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Thanks, Matt. So we have to edit all our SNOTEL sites and tell it to only ingest from MesoWest-snow.dat and that will fix the issue? I presume then we will only have snow depth and lose pcpn and temp by limiting it to MesoWest-snow.dat for the "product"? This appears to be a tad different than what Mike Sutton alluded to as the problem (and that it was an issue on how IRIS compiles the data). 

 

 


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