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Jimmy Fowler, modified 2 Years ago.

Marine Thunderstorm Wind Gust LSR Entry

Youngling Posts: 4 Join Date: 9/1/17 Recent Posts

Hey,

There used to be an LSR entry type for Marine Thunderstorm Wind Gust, however during a recent event, our forecasters noticed that the option is no longer there. Is this by design, or is this a bug?

Thanks,

Jimmy Fowler

WFO Houston

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Don Van Dyke, modified 2 Years ago.

Marine Thunderstorm Wind Gust LSR Entry

Youngling Posts: 11 Join Date: 4/12/16 Recent Posts

Hi Jimmy,

I noticed the same thing just recently along with a lot of new LSR types in the drop down menu. I was able to trace it back to this change that was implemented a few days ago, so it was by design. https://www.weather.gov/media/notification/pdf_2023_24/scn23-31_lsr_source_changes_2022_aac.pdf I guess we're just supposed to use the regular thunderstorm wind LSR to document marine gusts now.

-Don

On 6/4/2023 8:08 PM, Jimmy Fowler wrote:

Hey,

There used to be an LSR entry type for Marine Thunderstorm Wind Gust, however during a recent event, our forecasters noticed that the option is no longer there. Is this by design, or is this a bug?

Thanks,

Jimmy Fowler

WFO Houston

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NWS Tallahassee, FL
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Lauren Nash, modified 2 Years ago.

RE: Marine Thunderstorm Wind Gust LSR Entry

Youngling Posts: 4 Join Date: 12/24/13 Recent Posts

Any idea how these changes will impact Storm Data? For the lack of marine thunderstorm wind, I can see this really getting on SPCs nerves since they get alerted for every "thunderstorm wind gust" and Marine has a much lower threshold than severe. They also get "dinged" on those until they are filtered out. I wonder if this change will stick because of that?

On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 7:20 PM Don Van Dyke <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hi Jimmy,

I noticed the same thing just recently along with a lot of new LSR types in the drop down menu. I was able to trace it back to this change that was implemented a few days ago, so it was by design. https://www.weather.gov/media/notification/pdf_2023_24/scn23-31_lsr_source_changes_2022_aac.pdf I guess we're just supposed to use the regular thunderstorm wind LSR to document marine gusts now.

-Don

On 6/4/2023 8:08 PM, Jimmy Fowler wrote:

Hey,

There used to be an LSR entry type for Marine Thunderstorm Wind Gust, however during a recent event, our forecasters noticed that the option is no longer there. Is this by design, or is this a bug?

Thanks,

Jimmy Fowler

WFO Houston

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WSR-88D, Storm Data, and Verification Focal Points
NWS Tallahassee, FL
(850) 942-8833
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Francis Kredensor, modified 2 Years ago.

RE: Marine Thunderstorm Wind Gust LSR Entry

Youngling Posts: 8 Join Date: 4/10/15 Recent Posts

Lauren,

I thought that at first, but I would imagine they could put some language in whatever scripts they have that put the LSRs on the site that would discount anything in a marine zone. Hopefully that would be fairly easy to do...

At the very least they already have to have scripts that discount any LSRs under 50kts/58mph, so the low-end marine gusts at least won't show up.

~Francis

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On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 11:42 AM Lauren Nash <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Any idea how these changes will impact Storm Data? For the lack of marine thunderstorm wind, I can see this really getting on SPCs nerves since they get alerted for every "thunderstorm wind gust" and Marine has a much lower threshold than severe. They also get "dinged" on those until they are filtered out. I wonder if this change will stick because of that?
On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 7:20 PM Don Van Dyke <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
Hi Jimmy,

I noticed the same thing just recently along with a lot of new LSR types in the drop down menu. I was able to trace it back to this change that was implemented a few days ago, so it was by design. https://www.weather.gov/media/notification/pdf_2023_24/scn23-31_lsr_source_changes_2022_aac.pdf I guess we're just supposed to use the regular thunderstorm wind LSR to document marine gusts now.

-Don

On 6/4/2023 8:08 PM, Jimmy Fowler wrote:

Hey,

There used to be an LSR entry type for Marine Thunderstorm Wind Gust, however during a recent event, our forecasters noticed that the option is no longer there. Is this by design, or is this a bug?

Thanks,

Jimmy Fowler

WFO Houston

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WSR-88D, Storm Data, and Verification Focal Points
NWS Tallahassee, FL
(850) 942-8833
"For beneath the surface, lies the future." --Captain Bridger
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Lauren Nash (she/her/hers)
Warning Coordination Meteorologist (WCM)

National Weather Service New Orleans/Baton Rouge

Cell: (985) 788-5855

24/7 Operations Phone Number:

504-522-7330 or 985-649-0429 Ext. 4

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