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Matthew Morris, modified 2 Years ago.

Fwd: RTMA and URMA implemented into WCOSS2 production

Youngling Posts: 169 Join Date: 12/6/17 Recent Posts
Hi All:

The RTMA/URMA v2.10 upgrade was implemented into operations with yesterday's 15Z RTMA and 09Z URMA cycles.  Please see below for more details.  As always, please let us know if you have any questions or feedback.

Thanks,
Matt

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Steven Earle - NOAA Federal <steven.earle@noaa.gov>
Date: Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 8:21 AM
Subject: RTMA and URMA implemented into WCOSS2 production
To: _NWS NCEP Model Eval <ncep.model.eval@noaa.gov>
Cc: David Burrows - NOAA Affiliate <david.burrows@noaa.gov>, Tony Salemi - NOAA Federal <tony.salemi@noaa.gov>, Anne Myckow - NOAA Affiliate <anne.myckow@noaa.gov>, Carissa Klemmer <carissa.l.klemmer@noaa.gov>


All,
The Real Time Mesoscale Analysis (RTMA) version 2.10.4 and the UnRestricted Mesoscale Analysis (URMA) version 2.10.3 were implemented into WCOSS2 production effective with yesterday's 1500 UTC model run. Full details about the upgrade are attached to this email.


Steven Earle
Production Analyst Team Lead
NCEP Central Operations



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Matthew Morris
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5830 University Research Ct., Rm. 2038
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Jack Settelmaier, modified 2 Years ago.

RE: Fwd: RTMA and URMA implemented into WCOSS2 production

Youngling Posts: 23 Join Date: 11/2/12 Recent Posts

Hey Matt,

 

We've had a few questions about access to URMA archives, for use to verify and validate forecasts.  Do you have any updates on where an archive exists or will exist?

 

We've noticed that the AWS-based URMA files appear to have begun "archiving" in locations like this. since the beginning of March 2023, but are unsure if these will continue, as well as any details on when files show up in the directories, vs real-time versions.

https://noaa-urma-pds.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html#urma2p5.20230320/

 

Are there any comprehensive details out there on RTMA/URMA data and dataflow (and any archive) that you can provide here?  Or, is it here, and I've overlooked it.  Thanks

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Matthew Morris, modified 2 Years ago.

RE: Fwd: RTMA and URMA implemented into WCOSS2 production

Youngling Posts: 169 Join Date: 12/6/17 Recent Posts
Hi Jack,

Thanks for your email.  We are looking into your questions and will get back to you once we learn more.

Matt

On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 11:49 AM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hey Matt,

 

We've had a few questions about access to URMA archives, for use to verify and validate forecasts.  Do you have any updates on where an archive exists or will exist?

 

We've noticed that the AWS-based URMA files appear to have begun "archiving" in locations like this. since the beginning of March 2023, but are unsure if these will continue, as well as any details on when files show up in the directories, vs real-time versions.

https://noaa-urma-pds.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html#urma2p5.20230320/

 

Are there any comprehensive details out there on RTMA/URMA data and dataflow (and any archive) that you can provide here?  Or, is it here, and I've overlooked it.  Thanks


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Jack Settelmaier RTMA/URMA Discussion Group Virtual Lab Forum https://vlab.noaa.gov/web/715073/discussions-forums-/-/message_boards/view_message/28391282VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov


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Matthew Morris
SAIC at NOAA/NWS/NCEP/EMC
5830 University Research Ct., Rm. 2038
College Park, MD 20740
301-683-3758
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Matthew Morris, modified 2 Years ago.

RE: Fwd: RTMA and URMA implemented into WCOSS2 production

Youngling Posts: 169 Join Date: 12/6/17 Recent Posts
Hi Jack,

The NOAA Open Data Dissemination (NODD) Program is maintaining the RTMA/URMA archive on AWS.  For more information on this archive, please see: https://registry.opendata.aws/noaa-rtma/

The NODD archive does not serve as an official NOAA archive, but the NODD does not have any plans to delete the data.  Currently, RTMA data goes back to the start of 2019 and URMA data to early March 2023.  Since URMA is more widely used for verification purposes, we would like to backfill the URMA archive to January 2019, as well, but it's not clear if that will be possible.  The data will appear in the S3 bucket as soon as it is available on NOMADS.

Please let us know if you have any other questions.

Thanks,
Matt


On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 3:43 PM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
Hi Jack,

Thanks for your email.  We are looking into your questions and will get back to you once we learn more.

Matt

On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 11:49 AM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hey Matt,

 

We've had a few questions about access to URMA archives, for use to verify and validate forecasts.  Do you have any updates on where an archive exists or will exist?

 

We've noticed that the AWS-based URMA files appear to have begun "archiving" in locations like this. since the beginning of March 2023, but are unsure if these will continue, as well as any details on when files show up in the directories, vs real-time versions.

https://noaa-urma-pds.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html#urma2p5.20230320/

 

Are there any comprehensive details out there on RTMA/URMA data and dataflow (and any archive) that you can provide here?  Or, is it here, and I've overlooked it.  Thanks


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Jack Settelmaier RTMA/URMA Discussion Group Virtual Lab Forum https://vlab.noaa.gov/web/715073/discussions-forums-/-/message_boards/view_message/28391282VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov


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SAIC at NOAA/NWS/NCEP/EMC
5830 University Research Ct., Rm. 2038
College Park, MD 20740
301-683-3758

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SAIC at NOAA/NWS/NCEP/EMC
5830 University Research Ct., Rm. 2038
College Park, MD 20740
301-683-3758
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Jonathan Howell, modified 1 Year ago.

RE: Fwd: RTMA and URMA implemented into WCOSS2 production

Youngling Posts: 1 Join Date: 12/20/13 Recent Posts

Hi Matt,

 

I am the SOO at WFO Mobile and I have recently joined the new southern region verification team (VTOT) and we are interested in conducting some verification of the URMA dataset. I have read through the threads between yourself and Jack S. regarding backfilling the URMA archive to January 2019. I wanted to see if there have been any updates on if/when this will be possible? Thanks in advance for any updates that you can provide.

 

Sincerely,

Jon Howell

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Matthew Morris, modified 1 Year ago.

RE: Fwd: RTMA and URMA implemented into WCOSS2 production

Youngling Posts: 169 Join Date: 12/6/17 Recent Posts
Hi Jon,

We have reached out to the NODD group, and it sounds like they should be able to backfill the URMA archive to January 2019, although it's unclear how long this process will take.

Thanks,
Matt

On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 11:42 AM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hi Matt,

 

I am the SOO at WFO Mobile and I have recently joined the new southern region verification team (VTOT) and we are interested in conducting some verification of the URMA dataset. I have read through the threads between yourself and Jack S. regarding backfilling the URMA archive to January 2019. I wanted to see if there have been any updates on if/when this will be possible? Thanks in advance for any updates that you can provide.

 

Sincerely,

Jon Howell


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Matthew Morris
SAIC at NOAA/NWS/NCEP/EMC
5830 University Research Ct., Rm. 2038
College Park, MD 20740
301-683-3758