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Kevin Huyck, modified 5 Months ago.

"Get AWIPS LSRs" question

Youngling Posts: 5 Join Date: 7/6/14 Recent Posts
Hi, folks.

Can someone describe to me the process IRIS uses to ingest AWIPS LSRs? I wonder, specifically, whether retransmitting LSRs in AWIPS which were already sent from IRIS would allow them to be re-ingested into IRIS in the case of a data loss such as occurred yesterday.

Yesterday's IRIS failover and subsequent loss of data included the loss of "Trained Spotter", "Official NWS Obs", and "Public" LSRs. Repeatedly refreshing the page and then using the "Get AWIPS LSRs" button didn't have the desired effect. Only 1 LSR was retrieved that way. If IRIS maintains its own database of LSR products "from" AWIPS, that would make sense, and retransmitting the previously sent LSRs would allow them to be re-ingested into IRIS.

This might be a suitable workaround when reports are lost.

Respectfully,

Kevin Huyck (hike, hear my name) - KB9WOB
AuDHD - "The ' Gold ' Standard of Neurodivergence". 😁
Meteorologist, Neurodiversity Advocate

NOAA/National Weather Service
5027 Miller Trunk Highway
Duluth, MN 55811-1442
(218) 729-6697

My font is large to prioritize accessibility. Sans serif fonts at 14pt or larger are recommended as the most legible.

Thoughtful Quotes:
"You have to learn why things work on a starship." - Adm. James T. Kirk
"Okay now, let’s everybody keep cool. Let’s solve the problem, but let’s not make it any worse by guessing. " - Gene Kranz
MD
Matt Davis, modified 5 Months ago.

RE: "Get AWIPS LSRs" question

Youngling Posts: 193 Join Date: 6/14/11 Recent Posts
Hi Kevin,

The 'Get AWIPS LSRs' function reads LSRs that have been publicly issued and converts them into the IRIS 'Weather Event' format, which is used internally to create both LSRs and PNSs. It was put in place to ingest any reports issued from the now defunct AWIPS LSR program. The problem with the data loss yesterday is that it affected all data in the database within the four-day period, including the ingested LSRs, public reports, and the internal Weather Events, meaning there was nothing for the Get AWIPS LSRs function to retrieve.

Thanks,
Matt

On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 2:43 PM Kevin Huyck <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
Hi, folks.

Can someone describe to me the process IRIS uses to ingest AWIPS LSRs? I wonder, specifically, whether retransmitting LSRs in AWIPS which were already sent from IRIS would allow them to be re-ingested into IRIS in the case of a data loss such as occurred yesterday.

Yesterday's IRIS failover and subsequent loss of data included the loss of "Trained Spotter", "Official NWS Obs", and "Public" LSRs. Repeatedly refreshing the page and then using the "Get AWIPS LSRs" button didn't have the desired effect. Only 1 LSR was retrieved that way. If IRIS maintains its own database of LSR products "from" AWIPS, that would make sense, and retransmitting the previously sent LSRs would allow them to be re-ingested into IRIS.

This might be a suitable workaround when reports are lost.

Respectfully,

Kevin Huyck (hike, hear my name) - KB9WOB
AuDHD - "The ' Gold ' Standard of Neurodivergence". 😁
Meteorologist, Neurodiversity Advocate

NOAA/National Weather Service
5027 Miller Trunk Highway
Duluth, MN 55811-1442
(218) 729-6697

My font is large to prioritize accessibility. Sans serif fonts at 14pt or larger are recommended as the most legible.

Thoughtful Quotes:
"You have to learn why things work on a starship." - Adm. James T. Kirk
"Okay now, let’s everybody keep cool. Let’s solve the problem, but let’s not make it any worse by guessing. " - Gene Kranz

--
Kevin Huyck IRIS Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/iris/iris-forum/-/message_boards/view_message/41495808VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov


--
Project Manager  ​for IDSS and Dissemination Systems
NWS Office of Science and Technology Integration
Meteorological Development Laboratory
(608) 406-0537
(He/Him/His)



KH
Kevin Huyck, modified 5 Months ago.

RE: "Get AWIPS LSRs" question

Youngling Posts: 5 Join Date: 7/6/14 Recent Posts
So if we retransmitted the LSRs from AWIPS, would that repopulate the database?

Respectfully,

Kevin Huyck (hike, hear my name) - KB9WOB
AuDHD - "The ' Gold ' Standard of Neurodivergence". 😁
Meteorologist, Neurodiversity Advocate

NOAA/National Weather Service
5027 Miller Trunk Highway
Duluth, MN 55811-1442
(218) 729-6697

My font is large to prioritize accessibility. Sans serif fonts at 14pt or larger are recommended as the most legible.

Thoughtful Quotes:
"You have to learn why things work on a starship." - Adm. James T. Kirk
"Okay now, let’s everybody keep cool. Let’s solve the problem, but let’s not make it any worse by guessing. " - Gene Kranz


On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 3:05 PM Matt Davis <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
Hi Kevin,

The 'Get AWIPS LSRs' function reads LSRs that have been publicly issued and converts them into the IRIS 'Weather Event' format, which is used internally to create both LSRs and PNSs. It was put in place to ingest any reports issued from the now defunct AWIPS LSR program. The problem with the data loss yesterday is that it affected all data in the database within the four-day period, including the ingested LSRs, public reports, and the internal Weather Events, meaning there was nothing for the Get AWIPS LSRs function to retrieve.

Thanks,
Matt

On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 2:43 PM Kevin Huyck <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
Hi, folks.

Can someone describe to me the process IRIS uses to ingest AWIPS LSRs? I wonder, specifically, whether retransmitting LSRs in AWIPS which were already sent from IRIS would allow them to be re-ingested into IRIS in the case of a data loss such as occurred yesterday.

Yesterday's IRIS failover and subsequent loss of data included the loss of "Trained Spotter", "Official NWS Obs", and "Public" LSRs. Repeatedly refreshing the page and then using the "Get AWIPS LSRs" button didn't have the desired effect. Only 1 LSR was retrieved that way. If IRIS maintains its own database of LSR products "from" AWIPS, that would make sense, and retransmitting the previously sent LSRs would allow them to be re-ingested into IRIS.

This might be a suitable workaround when reports are lost.

Respectfully,

Kevin Huyck (hike, hear my name) - KB9WOB
AuDHD - "The ' Gold ' Standard of Neurodivergence". 😁
Meteorologist, Neurodiversity Advocate

NOAA/National Weather Service
5027 Miller Trunk Highway
Duluth, MN 55811-1442
(218) 729-6697

My font is large to prioritize accessibility. Sans serif fonts at 14pt or larger are recommended as the most legible.

Thoughtful Quotes:
"You have to learn why things work on a starship." - Adm. James T. Kirk
"Okay now, let’s everybody keep cool. Let’s solve the problem, but let’s not make it any worse by guessing. " - Gene Kranz

--
Kevin Huyck IRIS Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/iris/iris-forum/-/message_boards/view_message/41495808VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov


--
Project Manager  ​for IDSS and Dissemination Systems
NWS Office of Science and Technology Integration
Meteorological Development Laboratory
(608) 406-0537
(He/Him/His)




--
Matt Davis IRIS Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/iris/iris-forum/-/message_boards/view_message/41499513VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov
MD
Matt Davis, modified 5 Months ago.

RE: "Get AWIPS LSRs" question

Youngling Posts: 193 Join Date: 6/14/11 Recent Posts
Yes, if they are in AWIPS, and were re-sent, then in a minute or two, the Get AWIPS LSR function would be able to convert them.

Thanks,
Matt

On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 3:07 PM Kevin Huyck <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
So if we retransmitted the LSRs from AWIPS, would that repopulate the database?

Respectfully,

Kevin Huyck (hike, hear my name) - KB9WOB
AuDHD - "The ' Gold ' Standard of Neurodivergence". 😁
Meteorologist, Neurodiversity Advocate

NOAA/National Weather Service
5027 Miller Trunk Highway
Duluth, MN 55811-1442
(218) 729-6697

My font is large to prioritize accessibility. Sans serif fonts at 14pt or larger are recommended as the most legible.

Thoughtful Quotes:
"You have to learn why things work on a starship." - Adm. James T. Kirk
"Okay now, let’s everybody keep cool. Let’s solve the problem, but let’s not make it any worse by guessing. " - Gene Kranz


On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 3:05 PM Matt Davis <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
Hi Kevin,

The 'Get AWIPS LSRs' function reads LSRs that have been publicly issued and converts them into the IRIS 'Weather Event' format, which is used internally to create both LSRs and PNSs. It was put in place to ingest any reports issued from the now defunct AWIPS LSR program. The problem with the data loss yesterday is that it affected all data in the database within the four-day period, including the ingested LSRs, public reports, and the internal Weather Events, meaning there was nothing for the Get AWIPS LSRs function to retrieve.

Thanks,
Matt

On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 2:43 PM Kevin Huyck <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:
Hi, folks.

Can someone describe to me the process IRIS uses to ingest AWIPS LSRs? I wonder, specifically, whether retransmitting LSRs in AWIPS which were already sent from IRIS would allow them to be re-ingested into IRIS in the case of a data loss such as occurred yesterday.

Yesterday's IRIS failover and subsequent loss of data included the loss of "Trained Spotter", "Official NWS Obs", and "Public" LSRs. Repeatedly refreshing the page and then using the "Get AWIPS LSRs" button didn't have the desired effect. Only 1 LSR was retrieved that way. If IRIS maintains its own database of LSR products "from" AWIPS, that would make sense, and retransmitting the previously sent LSRs would allow them to be re-ingested into IRIS.

This might be a suitable workaround when reports are lost.

Respectfully,

Kevin Huyck (hike, hear my name) - KB9WOB
AuDHD - "The ' Gold ' Standard of Neurodivergence". 😁
Meteorologist, Neurodiversity Advocate

NOAA/National Weather Service
5027 Miller Trunk Highway
Duluth, MN 55811-1442
(218) 729-6697

My font is large to prioritize accessibility. Sans serif fonts at 14pt or larger are recommended as the most legible.

Thoughtful Quotes:
"You have to learn why things work on a starship." - Adm. James T. Kirk
"Okay now, let’s everybody keep cool. Let’s solve the problem, but let’s not make it any worse by guessing. " - Gene Kranz

--
Kevin Huyck IRIS Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/iris/iris-forum/-/message_boards/view_message/41495808VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov


--
Project Manager  ​for IDSS and Dissemination Systems
NWS Office of Science and Technology Integration
Meteorological Development Laboratory
(608) 406-0537
(He/Him/His)




--
Matt Davis IRIS Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/iris/iris-forum/-/message_boards/view_message/41499513VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--
Kevin Huyck IRIS Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/iris/iris-forum/-/message_boards/view_message/41499686VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov


--
Project Manager  ​for IDSS and Dissemination Systems
NWS Office of Science and Technology Integration
Meteorological Development Laboratory
(608) 406-0537
(He/Him/His)