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John Dumas, modified 11 Months ago.

RTMA/URMA for wave heights?

Youngling Posts: 4 Join Date: 9/24/12 Recent Posts

Hi,

Is there anything that exists, or is being developed, that is similar to RTMA/URMA but for wave height?

Thanks,

John

John Dumas

Science and Operations Officer

NWS Weather Forecast Office Los Angeles / Oxnard, CA

John.Dumas@noaa.gov

(805) 988-6624

JS

Jack Settelmaier, modified 11 Months ago.

RE: RTMA/URMA for wave heights?

Youngling Posts: 23 Join Date: 11/2/12 Recent Posts

Hey John, I saw this article as part of a NASA newsletter. Maybe it's something to explore?

https://www.earthdata.nasa.gov/learn/articles/swot-data-release

On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 2:26 PM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hi,
Is there anything that exists, or is being developed, that is similar to RTMA/URMA but for wave height?

Thanks,

John

John Dumas

Science and Operations Officer

NWS Weather Forecast Office Los Angeles / Oxnard, CA

John.Dumas@noaa.gov

(805) 988-6624

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John Dumas RTMA/URMA Discussion Group Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/715073/home/-/message_boards/view_message/37104293 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

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Brian Miretzky, modified 11 Months ago.

RE: RTMA/URMA for wave heights?

Youngling Posts: 47 Join Date: 1/8/13 Recent Posts

Hi John,

RTMA/URMA already includes significant wave height - https://sites.google.com/ucar.edu/operational-models-encyclo/deterministic-models/analyses/rtma-urma.

Thanks,

Brian

On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 3:32 PM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hey John, I saw this article as part of a NASA newsletter. Maybe it's something to explore?
https://www.earthdata.nasa.gov/learn/articles/swot-data-release

On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 2:26 PM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hi,
Is there anything that exists, or is being developed, that is similar to RTMA/URMA but for wave height?

Thanks,

John

John Dumas

Science and Operations Officer

NWS Weather Forecast Office Los Angeles / Oxnard, CA

John.Dumas@noaa.gov

(805) 988-6624

--
John Dumas RTMA/URMA Discussion Group Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/715073/home/-/message_boards/view_message/37104293 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

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Jack Settelmaier RTMA/URMA Discussion Group Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/715073/home/-/message_boards/view_message/37107878 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

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Matthew Morris, modified 11 Months ago.

RE: RTMA/URMA for wave heights?

Youngling Posts: 169 Join Date: 12/6/17 Recent Posts

Hi John,

Significant wave height is only analyzed in URMA (CONUS, AK, HI, & PR). In RTMA, we only analyze significant wave height over Guam, as there is no URMA for that domain.

Please let us know if you have any questions.

Thanks,

Matt

On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 6:22 PM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hi John,
RTMA/URMA already includes significant wave height - https://sites.google.com/ucar.edu/operational-models-encyclo/deterministic-models/analyses/rtma-urma.

Thanks,

Brian

On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 3:32 PM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hey John, I saw this article as part of a NASA newsletter. Maybe it's something to explore?
https://www.earthdata.nasa.gov/learn/articles/swot-data-release

On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 2:26 PM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hi,
Is there anything that exists, or is being developed, that is similar to RTMA/URMA but for wave height?

Thanks,

John

John Dumas

Science and Operations Officer

NWS Weather Forecast Office Los Angeles / Oxnard, CA

John.Dumas@noaa.gov

(805) 988-6624

--
John Dumas RTMA/URMA Discussion Group Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/715073/home/-/message_boards/view_message/37104293 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

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Jack Settelmaier RTMA/URMA Discussion Group Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/715073/home/-/message_boards/view_message/37107878 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

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Brian Miretzky RTMA/URMA Discussion Group Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/715073/home/-/message_boards/view_message/37109981 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--

Matthew Morris

SAIC at NOAA/NWS/NCEP/EMC

5830 University Research Ct., Rm. 2038

College Park, MD 20740

301-683-3758

JD

John Dumas, modified 11 Months ago.

RE: RTMA/URMA for wave heights?

Youngling Posts: 4 Join Date: 9/24/12 Recent Posts

I see there is a spot for URMA wave grids in GFE, but there is no data there. How do I get it into AWIPS?

John Dumas

Science and Operations Officer

NWS Weather Forecast Office Los Angeles / Oxnard, CA

John.Dumas@noaa.gov

(805) 988-6624

On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 6:23 AM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hi John,

Significant wave height is only analyzed in URMA (CONUS, AK, HI, & PR). In RTMA, we only analyze significant wave height over Guam, as there is no URMA for that domain.

Please let us know if you have any questions.

Thanks,

Matt

On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 6:22 PM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hi John,
RTMA/URMA already includes significant wave height - https://sites.google.com/ucar.edu/operational-models-encyclo/deterministic-models/analyses/rtma-urma.

Thanks,

Brian

On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 3:32 PM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hey John, I saw this article as part of a NASA newsletter. Maybe it's something to explore?
https://www.earthdata.nasa.gov/learn/articles/swot-data-release

On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 2:26 PM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hi,
Is there anything that exists, or is being developed, that is similar to RTMA/URMA but for wave height?

Thanks,

John

John Dumas

Science and Operations Officer

NWS Weather Forecast Office Los Angeles / Oxnard, CA

John.Dumas@noaa.gov

(805) 988-6624

--
John Dumas RTMA/URMA Discussion Group Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/715073/home/-/message_boards/view_message/37104293 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

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Jack Settelmaier RTMA/URMA Discussion Group Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/715073/home/-/message_boards/view_message/37107878 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

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Brian Miretzky RTMA/URMA Discussion Group Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/715073/home/-/message_boards/view_message/37109981 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--

Matthew Morris
SAIC at NOAA/NWS/NCEP/EMC

5830 University Research Ct., Rm. 2038

College Park, MD 20740

301-683-3758

--
Matthew Morris RTMA/URMA Discussion Group Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/715073/home/-/message_boards/view_message/37163506 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

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Jack Settelmaier, modified 11 Months ago.

RE: RTMA/URMA for wave heights?

Youngling Posts: 23 Join Date: 11/2/12 Recent Posts

Here's a link to some URMA HWV analysis images: https://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/mmb/rtma/prod/URMA/13/URMA_CONUS_howv.php

I did see the METED link of models that Brian shared has a pointer to an old VLab link. The RTMA/URMA VLab link should be akin to this, I believe: https://vlab.noaa.gov/group/715073/viewer-links

On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 8:23 AM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hi John,

Significant wave height is only analyzed in URMA (CONUS, AK, HI, & PR). In RTMA, we only analyze significant wave height over Guam, as there is no URMA for that domain.

Please let us know if you have any questions.

Thanks,

Matt

On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 6:22 PM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hi John,
RTMA/URMA already includes significant wave height - https://sites.google.com/ucar.edu/operational-models-encyclo/deterministic-models/analyses/rtma-urma.

Thanks,

Brian

On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 3:32 PM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hey John, I saw this article as part of a NASA newsletter. Maybe it's something to explore?
https://www.earthdata.nasa.gov/learn/articles/swot-data-release

On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 2:26 PM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hi,
Is there anything that exists, or is being developed, that is similar to RTMA/URMA but for wave height?

Thanks,

John

John Dumas

Science and Operations Officer

NWS Weather Forecast Office Los Angeles / Oxnard, CA

John.Dumas@noaa.gov

(805) 988-6624

--
John Dumas RTMA/URMA Discussion Group Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/715073/home/-/message_boards/view_message/37104293 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--
Jack Settelmaier RTMA/URMA Discussion Group Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/715073/home/-/message_boards/view_message/37107878 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--
Brian Miretzky RTMA/URMA Discussion Group Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/715073/home/-/message_boards/view_message/37109981 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--

Matthew Morris
SAIC at NOAA/NWS/NCEP/EMC

5830 University Research Ct., Rm. 2038

College Park, MD 20740

301-683-3758

--
Matthew Morris RTMA/URMA Discussion Group Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/715073/home/-/message_boards/view_message/37163506 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

MM

Matthew Morris, modified 11 Months ago.

RE: RTMA/URMA for wave heights?

Youngling Posts: 169 Join Date: 12/6/17 Recent Posts

Hi John,

We would need to work with NCO Dataflow to determine if it is possible to add the wave height grids in AWIPS.

Jack: Thanks for pointing out the broken links in the RTMA/URMA documentation. We will work to get those links fixed.

Thanks,
Matt

On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 6:03 PM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Here's a link to some URMA HWV analysis images: https://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/mmb/rtma/prod/URMA/13/URMA_CONUS_howv.php

I did see the METED link of models that Brian shared has a pointer to an old VLab link. The RTMA/URMA VLab link should be akin to this, I believe: https://vlab.noaa.gov/group/715073/viewer-links

On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 8:23 AM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hi John,

Significant wave height is only analyzed in URMA (CONUS, AK, HI, & PR). In RTMA, we only analyze significant wave height over Guam, as there is no URMA for that domain.

Please let us know if you have any questions.

Thanks,

Matt

On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 6:22 PM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hi John,
RTMA/URMA already includes significant wave height - https://sites.google.com/ucar.edu/operational-models-encyclo/deterministic-models/analyses/rtma-urma.

Thanks,

Brian

On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 3:32 PM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hey John, I saw this article as part of a NASA newsletter. Maybe it's something to explore?
https://www.earthdata.nasa.gov/learn/articles/swot-data-release

On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 2:26 PM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hi,
Is there anything that exists, or is being developed, that is similar to RTMA/URMA but for wave height?

Thanks,

John

John Dumas

Science and Operations Officer

NWS Weather Forecast Office Los Angeles / Oxnard, CA

John.Dumas@noaa.gov

(805) 988-6624

--
John Dumas RTMA/URMA Discussion Group Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/715073/home/-/message_boards/view_message/37104293 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--
Jack Settelmaier RTMA/URMA Discussion Group Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/715073/home/-/message_boards/view_message/37107878 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--
Brian Miretzky RTMA/URMA Discussion Group Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/715073/home/-/message_boards/view_message/37109981 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--

Matthew Morris
SAIC at NOAA/NWS/NCEP/EMC

5830 University Research Ct., Rm. 2038

College Park, MD 20740

301-683-3758

--
Matthew Morris RTMA/URMA Discussion Group Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/715073/home/-/message_boards/view_message/37163506 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--
Jack Settelmaier RTMA/URMA Discussion Group Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/715073/home/-/message_boards/view_message/37170171 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--

Matthew Morris

SAIC at NOAA/NWS/NCEP/EMC

5830 University Research Ct., Rm. 2038

College Park, MD 20740

301-683-3758

BM

Brian Miretzky, modified 11 Months ago.

RE: RTMA/URMA for wave heights?

Youngling Posts: 47 Join Date: 1/8/13 Recent Posts

John: Talk to your regional AWIPS POC and they could look into it.

Thanks,

Brian

On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 1:37 PM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hi John,

We would need to work with NCO Dataflow to determine if it is possible to add the wave height grids in AWIPS.

Jack: Thanks for pointing out the broken links in the RTMA/URMA documentation. We will work to get those links fixed.

Thanks,
Matt

On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 6:03 PM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Here's a link to some URMA HWV analysis images: https://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/mmb/rtma/prod/URMA/13/URMA_CONUS_howv.php

I did see the METED link of models that Brian shared has a pointer to an old VLab link. The RTMA/URMA VLab link should be akin to this, I believe: https://vlab.noaa.gov/group/715073/viewer-links

On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 8:23 AM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hi John,

Significant wave height is only analyzed in URMA (CONUS, AK, HI, & PR). In RTMA, we only analyze significant wave height over Guam, as there is no URMA for that domain.

Please let us know if you have any questions.

Thanks,

Matt

On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 6:22 PM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hi John,
RTMA/URMA already includes significant wave height - https://sites.google.com/ucar.edu/operational-models-encyclo/deterministic-models/analyses/rtma-urma.

Thanks,

Brian

On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 3:32 PM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hey John, I saw this article as part of a NASA newsletter. Maybe it's something to explore?
https://www.earthdata.nasa.gov/learn/articles/swot-data-release

On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 2:26 PM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hi,
Is there anything that exists, or is being developed, that is similar to RTMA/URMA but for wave height?

Thanks,

John

John Dumas

Science and Operations Officer

NWS Weather Forecast Office Los Angeles / Oxnard, CA

John.Dumas@noaa.gov

(805) 988-6624

--
John Dumas RTMA/URMA Discussion Group Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/715073/home/-/message_boards/view_message/37104293 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--
Jack Settelmaier RTMA/URMA Discussion Group Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/715073/home/-/message_boards/view_message/37107878 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--
Brian Miretzky RTMA/URMA Discussion Group Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/715073/home/-/message_boards/view_message/37109981 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--

Matthew Morris
SAIC at NOAA/NWS/NCEP/EMC

5830 University Research Ct., Rm. 2038

College Park, MD 20740

301-683-3758

--
Matthew Morris RTMA/URMA Discussion Group Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/715073/home/-/message_boards/view_message/37163506 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--
Jack Settelmaier RTMA/URMA Discussion Group Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/715073/home/-/message_boards/view_message/37170171 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--

Matthew Morris
SAIC at NOAA/NWS/NCEP/EMC

5830 University Research Ct., Rm. 2038

College Park, MD 20740

301-683-3758

--
Matthew Morris RTMA/URMA Discussion Group Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/715073/home/-/message_boards/view_message/37262807 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

JD

John Dumas, modified 11 Months ago.

RE: RTMA/URMA for wave heights?

Youngling Posts: 4 Join Date: 9/24/12 Recent Posts

thank you

John Dumas

Science and Operations Officer

NWS Weather Forecast Office Los Angeles / Oxnard, CA

John.Dumas@noaa.gov

(805) 988-6624

On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 11:37 AM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hi John,

We would need to work with NCO Dataflow to determine if it is possible to add the wave height grids in AWIPS.

Jack: Thanks for pointing out the broken links in the RTMA/URMA documentation. We will work to get those links fixed.

Thanks,
Matt

On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 6:03 PM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Here's a link to some URMA HWV analysis images: https://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/mmb/rtma/prod/URMA/13/URMA_CONUS_howv.php

I did see the METED link of models that Brian shared has a pointer to an old VLab link. The RTMA/URMA VLab link should be akin to this, I believe: https://vlab.noaa.gov/group/715073/viewer-links

On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 8:23 AM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hi John,

Significant wave height is only analyzed in URMA (CONUS, AK, HI, & PR). In RTMA, we only analyze significant wave height over Guam, as there is no URMA for that domain.

Please let us know if you have any questions.

Thanks,

Matt

On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 6:22 PM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hi John,
RTMA/URMA already includes significant wave height - https://sites.google.com/ucar.edu/operational-models-encyclo/deterministic-models/analyses/rtma-urma.

Thanks,

Brian

On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 3:32 PM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hey John, I saw this article as part of a NASA newsletter. Maybe it's something to explore?
https://www.earthdata.nasa.gov/learn/articles/swot-data-release

On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 2:26 PM VLab Notifications <VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov> wrote:

Hi,
Is there anything that exists, or is being developed, that is similar to RTMA/URMA but for wave height?

Thanks,

John

John Dumas

Science and Operations Officer

NWS Weather Forecast Office Los Angeles / Oxnard, CA

John.Dumas@noaa.gov

(805) 988-6624

--
John Dumas RTMA/URMA Discussion Group Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/715073/home/-/message_boards/view_message/37104293 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--
Jack Settelmaier RTMA/URMA Discussion Group Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/715073/home/-/message_boards/view_message/37107878 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--
Brian Miretzky RTMA/URMA Discussion Group Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/715073/home/-/message_boards/view_message/37109981 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--

Matthew Morris
SAIC at NOAA/NWS/NCEP/EMC

5830 University Research Ct., Rm. 2038

College Park, MD 20740

301-683-3758

--
Matthew Morris RTMA/URMA Discussion Group Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/715073/home/-/message_boards/view_message/37163506 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--
Jack Settelmaier RTMA/URMA Discussion Group Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/715073/home/-/message_boards/view_message/37170171 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

--

Matthew Morris
SAIC at NOAA/NWS/NCEP/EMC

5830 University Research Ct., Rm. 2038

College Park, MD 20740

301-683-3758

--
Matthew Morris RTMA/URMA Discussion Group Virtual Lab Forum http://vlab.noaa.gov/web/715073/home/-/message_boards/view_message/37262807 VLab.Notifications@noaa.gov

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Another viewer of the current RTMA/URMA, with an archive going back 24 hours. This version is open to the public, but does not contain information about the (many) restricted obs used.

This link is to a presentation from the (then) RUC group on how the downscaling process works. Although we now use the RAP, HRRR, and NAM, the logic of the downscaling code is mostly unchanged from this point.