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RE: Standardizing Scales of ProbQPF24, ProbQPF48, ProbQPF72 to include 0.01" and 0.10"

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Colby Neuman, modified 2 Years ago.

Standardizing Scales of ProbQPF24, ProbQPF48, ProbQPF72 to include 0.01" and 0.10"

Youngling Posts: 1 Join Date: 1/4/14 Recent Posts

Under the Probabilities of Specific Amounts (%) section of the WSUP viewer, the scale for ProbQPF24 in NBM4.0 has values of 0.01", 0.10", 0.25" and so on.  The scale for ProbQPF24 in NBM4.1 starts with 0.25" and goes up from there.  Can the NBM4.1 ProbQPF24 include the probabilities for 0.01" and 0.10"?  Can these also be included in the scale for ProbQPF48 and ProbQPF72?  This would help with messaging in instances where there is a high probability it's going to rain, but timing uncertainty of a storm system is keeping the probabilities in ProbQPF6, ProbQPF12 and ProbQPF24 lower.  This is important for fire weather across much of the western US and when we are coming out of extended dry streaks that are receiving a lot of media attention. Thank you for the help.

-Colby

NWS Portland  

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David Ruth, modified 2 Years ago.

RE: Standardizing Scales of ProbQPF24, ProbQPF48, ProbQPF72 to include 0.01" and 0.10"

Youngling Posts: 32 Join Date: 5/12/15 Recent Posts

Colby,

Thanks for reaching out to us via the WSUP viewer forum.

I've attached the NBM v4.1 PQPF thresholds currently being provided for display in WSUP.   The 0.10" threshold in ProbQPF24 was dropped from NBM v4.1 .   0.01" for NBM v4.1 can be found under QMD PoP24.

If you need more thresholds added, I suggest talking to the team in your region that handles NBM requirements for future releases.

DR

On 9/18/2022 2:38 PM, Colby Neuman wrote:

Under the Probabilities of Specific Amounts (%) section of the WSUP viewer, the scale for ProbQPF24 in NBM4.0 has values of 0.01", 0.10", 0.25" and so on.  The scale for ProbQPF24 in NBM4.1 starts with 0.25" and goes up from there.  Can the NBM4.1 ProbQPF24 include the probabilities for 0.01" and 0.10"?  Can these also be included in the scale for ProbQPF48 and ProbQPF72?  This would help with messaging in instances where there is a high probability it's going to rain, but timing uncertainty of a storm system is keeping the probabilities in ProbQPF6, ProbQPF12 and ProbQPF24 lower.  This is important for fire weather across much of the western US and when we are coming out of extended dry streaks that are receiving a lot of media attention. Thank you for the help.

-Colby

NWS Portland  


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